Travel to and from DSEC9 from Monria/Toulan

[Tedros Daemonos]

Perhaps there is a way to allow travel to and from DSEC-9 from Toulan/Monria, without taking away space travel between Monria and Toulan.

In order to do so, the teleports allowing travel between Monria and DSEC-9 would have to be changed so that can only travel within the area, but to get to and from DSEC-9 area, a NPC/NPC's would need to be implemented called something like a "DSEC-9 Travel Agent" (with a corresponding NPC/location on Toulan/Monria respectively) or whatever other name that may apply to make the NPC('s) correlate with the themes of Monria/Toulan. There would have to be 2 separate ticket types. Like a Toulan and Monria travel ticket, that the "Travel Agent" gives you when you go to DSEC-9 that you turn in to go back to the place you came from. Something non-tradable with no real value.

We would then use the "DSEC-9 Travel Agent(s)" to travel to/from Monria<-->DSEC-9 and to/from Toulan<-->DSEC-9, while maintaining the current travel between Monria/Toulan through space only.

 

[Tedros Daemonos]

Edits galore^

 

[Mungo Baobob]

What purpose would this have, when we can already travel to toulan/monria via warp ship, or personal slep/quad.

 

[Tedros Daemonos]

What purpose would this have, when we can already travel to toulan/monria via warp ship, or personal slep/quad.

The point is to allow for players to be able to get to and from DSEC-9 from Toulan and Monria instantly, without disrupting normal space travel between Toulan and Monria.

There would be many benefits of allowing this.

The main purpose is to allow travel to DSEC-9 and not be able to bypass normal space travel between Monria/Toulan.

MA still keeps space travel. If one needs to go between Toulan and Monria, they take the normal space travel methods. If one needs to get to DSEC-9, they would be able to go there instantly, from Toulan or Monria via the "DSEC-9 Travel Agent" or whatever it would be called.

Easier access to DSEC-9 from Toulan and Monria.

How many times does one need to go back and forth between Toulan/DSEC-9 for the Crossover mission?

How many times has it been difficult to get a group together for killing the OTIS Commander?

How many times have groups needed people for the various wave events for Mountain of Madness?

Wouldn't it be nice to be able to get to the instances by Lotus teleport from Toulan too?


This would "open the door" to allow players from Toulan and Monria to get to DSEC-9 instantly to help with or do those instances and be able to go back afterwards. While still maintaining travel between Monria and Toulan through space only.

 

[Eleni Von Estlla]

I am going to be the idiot here, and ask the silly question.
But wouldn't by principle, a "new" way for travelling between Toulan and Dsec, bypass space travel?

By definition, someone using a TP, a NPC, a mission, or a flower to warp instead of using a spaceship, would obviously make that person not needing space?

Then by definition, this would affect space activity, either on petrol, space truster, planes crafting, spaceship owners, or like it or not the piracy buisness?

I may be horribly mistaken with the original post, but as I understand it, and it has been mentioned many times, there will never be any way to travel between Toulan and Monria other than through space.

 

[Tedros Daemonos]

I am going to be the idiot here, and ask the silly question.
But wouldn't by principle, a "new" way for travelling between Toulan and Dsec, bypass space travel?

By definition, someone using a TP, a NPC, a mission, or a flower to warp instead of using a spaceship, would obviously make that person not needing space?

Then by definition, this would affect space activity, either on petrol, space truster, planes crafting, spaceship owners, or like it or not the piracy buisness?

I may be horribly mistaken with the original post, but as I understand it, and it has been mentioned many times, there will never be any way to travel between Toulan and Monria other than through space.

Space travel between Monria and Toulan or any other planet would be unaffected.

This is only for instant travel to and from DSEC-9 from Toulan or Monria.

 

[Mungo Baobob]

Space travel between Monria and Toulan or any other planet would be unaffected.

This is only for instant travel to and from DSEC-9 from Toulan and Monria.

I think, the point your missing...is that would inf fact affect space travel. Because currently as the system works now (as intended) if one wants to travel from one of these locations to the other, that person must...purchase a warp. Or spend fuel, and decay to fly themselves.

Your suggestion would bypass that operation. Allowing one to travel between these locations with out having to purchase a warp, or spend decay. (Which is why MA will not allow this to happen)

I think we all fail to see how that wouldn't affect space travel.

 

[Dea]

Perhaps there is a way to allow travel to and from DSEC-9 from Toulan/Monria, without taking away space travel between Monria and Toulan.

In order to do so, the teleports allowing travel between Monria and DSEC-9 would have to be changed so that can only travel within the area, but to get to and from DSEC-9 area, a NPC/NPC's would need to be implemented called something like a "DSEC-9 Travel Agent" (with a corresponding NPC/location on Toulan/Monria respectively) or whatever other name that may apply to make the NPC('s) correlate with the themes of Monria/Toulan. There would have to be 2 separate ticket types. Like a Toulan and Monria travel ticket, that the "Travel Agent" gives you when you go to DSEC-9 that you turn in to go back to the place you came from. Something non-tradable with no real value.

We would then use the "DSEC-9 Travel Agent(s)" to travel to/from Monria<-->DSEC-9 and to/from Toulan<-->DSEC-9, while maintaining the current travel between Monria/Toulan through space only.

That would still cause an issue with space travel as well as new players tying to get to MoM.

 

[Tedros Daemonos]

I think, the point your missing...is that would inf fact affect space travel. Because currently as the system works now (as intended) if one wants to travel from one of these locations to the other, that person must...purchase a warp. Or spend fuel, and decay to fly themselves.

Your suggestion would bypass that operation. Allowing one to travel between these locations with out having to purchase a warp, or spend decay. (Which is why MA will not allow this to happen)

I think we all fail to see how that wouldn't affect space travel.

This would basically be adding access to DSEC-9 from Toulan or Monria.

If you wanted to go to Monria from Toulan or Monria to Toulan, you would still need to use the normal space travel method.

 

[Tedros Daemonos]

That would still cause an issue with space travel as well as new players tying to get to MoM.

This would basically be adding access to DSEC-9 from Toulan or Monria.

If you wanted to go to Monria from Toulan or Monria to Toulan, you would still need to use the normal space travel method.


Maybe you can explain how this would affect new players specifically?

They would access the DSEC-9 travel agent the same way anyone else would.

 

[Dea]

I was thinking about the tickets. But if you're thinking about free/easy to get tickets that's still just TP'ing and bypassing space.

 

[Tedros Daemonos]

I was thinking about the tickets. But if you're thinking about free/easy to get tickets that's still just TP'ing and bypassing space.

The only bypass is for easy instant access to DSEC-9 from Monria or Toulan. You wouldn't be able to get to Monria from Toulan with this concept. One would still need to go through space for travel to/from Monria, Toulan or any other planet.

 

[Eleni Von Estlla]

The only bypass [...]

Now we agree
The current need to travel between Toulan and Dsec9 (forget Monria) for all the very valid reasons you mentioned above (Crossover mission, Vaccum Commander, I'll add Wahesh dailies, etc etc) would then be no more.

Thus a change would affect space travelling.

 

[Tedros Daemonos]

Now we agree
The current need to travel between Toulan and Dsec9 (forget Monria) for all the very valid reasons you mentioned above (Crossover mission, Vaccum Commander, I'll add Wahesh dailies, etc etc) would then be no more.

Thus a change would affect space travelling.

The only bypass is for easy instant access to DSEC-9 from Monria or Toulan. You wouldn't be able to get to Monria from Toulan or to Toulan from Monria with this concept. One would still need to go through space for travel to/from Monria or Toulan

 

[Littlestar b-k]

I get Tedros point of view, i know i would be on Dsec alot to hunt small wahesh and woosh back to Toulan after.
But as everyone is trying to tell you, traveling from Toulan to Dsec makes you travel thru space thus needing a spenditure of resources or payment to other players for travel. Your suggestion would mean that those people that do travel between those places would no longer have to do that thus affecting space travel.

I do love the idea tho for the easy acces to Dsec ;) But sadly i also know it's an unrealistic one.
Suggestion are good so keep them coming and let Ant sort out the ones he likes.

 

[Tedros Daemonos]

I personally feel there is more than enough reason for travel to Monria on it's own through space, regardless of DSEC-9. There are players still needing to go to Monria. The only space travel affected by this approach will be the players who happen to be on Toulan wanting to go to the DSEC-9 area instance. Nothing changes, as far as space travel, except if you happen to be on Toulan and want to get to DSEC-9 and back to Toulan. I do not have access to data showing just how big of the space travel pie specifically Toulan to Monria for access to DSEC-9 is. Coming from any other locations, one would still have to fly through space to get to Monria or Toulan to access DSEC-9 through the "DSEC-9 Travel Agent" or whatever would be named.

The multiple benefits of instant access to DSEC-9 from Toulan, as well as Monria, by far outweighs any loss of space travel from Toulan to Monria simply to access DSEC-9 and is very realistic. With the existing tp's only allowing travel within the DSEC-9 instance, as suggested, keeps players from bypassing space to get between Monria/Toulan.

Toulan players will be happy to have access to DSEC-9 from Toulan.

The increased traffic due to ease of access (and peds spent by that increased traffic) on DSEC-9 should make MA/VirtualSense happy.

MA should be happy because space travel is still a necessity to travel between Monria and Toulan or anywhere else in space.

Please be aware on future comments, that the potential loss of space travel from Toulan to Monria, simply to access DSEC-9 and no other reason, was understood on my part since the 1st posting.

 

[Hally]

I only see this being a thing if its in the end of some instance, like a quest thru the dream lands going to R´lyeh and exiting elsewhere, this would have to be quite extensive and not to cheap in the form of killing stuff and maybe solving something, better players could maybe escort newer players, but ya cant affect space, but maybe with UE and the inevibly reshaping of the world and servers, thing might have a new structure and things could be doable ?